tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post7583926069752839716..comments2024-03-21T02:23:19.513-07:00Comments on STEVE PIECZENIK <b>TALKS</b>: Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08376863188680913389noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-34979752613601795132012-09-30T07:02:40.825-07:002012-09-30T07:02:40.825-07:00I just looked it up on
http://imam-khomeini.com/we...I just looked it up on<br />http://imam-khomeini.com/web1/english/showitem.aspx?cid=1352&h=13&f=14&pid=1445<br /><br />It says:<br /><br />"The Shah demanded and received cooperation from the Iraqi regime and the Imam was expelled on 3 October 1978.<br /><br />Migration (Oct. 3, 1978-Feb. 1, 1979)<br />Imam Khomeini set out for Kuwait on October 3rd 1978 but was denied entry by the government. After consulting with his son, Ahamad, the Imam decided to go to France where he arrived on October 5th and a few days later took up residence in the small village of Neuphle le Chateau."<br /><br />But I heard training was in Provence.MRWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13878920695841363553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-21299842739103728392012-09-30T06:51:32.222-07:002012-09-30T06:51:32.222-07:00Dr. Pieczenik,
I have a different story to tell y...Dr. Pieczenik,<br /><br />I have a different story to tell you. Khomeini was in the south of France (Provence) before the January 1979 coup. The CIA was in touch with Khomeini and his followers there, teaching them street guerrilla tactics for their return to Iran, tactics to help them quickly gain the favor of the people. They helped him return. I overheard this the summer of 1979 at a state department cocktail party in Tangiers from two agents who were too drunk to be careful (they were introduced to me earlier as USAID something or others, but the Consul inadvertently revealed otherwise). It was late in the evening. These loose lips were lamenting how Khomeini backstabbed them; every 7 oz glass of scotch brought out more facts between themselves (I read lips). After hearing your Sept. 16 Alex Jones interview, I realize, now, after all these years that I was probably listening to two of the 4,000 agents Carter kicked out.MRWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13878920695841363553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-50532333100914895382012-09-30T02:07:39.591-07:002012-09-30T02:07:39.591-07:00And Romney's Dream Team - loves! ......Torture...And Romney's Dream Team - loves! ......Torture.<br />According to this anyway!<br />http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/09/romney-advisers-write-error-ridden-pro-torture-memo<br />Civilized and decent people do not agree with torture.<br />I think you yourself, Mr Pieczenik, have views about it and its usefulness.<br /><br /><br />rosiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00032680013780447537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-81424892987732881942012-09-27T11:54:03.246-07:002012-09-27T11:54:03.246-07:00I agree, the best evidence currently available is ...I agree, the best evidence currently available is that the Iranian leadership is rational.<br /><br />I agree, all parties (mentioned above) in the region want a level of tension, each for their own perceived reasons & interests. I also agree, this contrived tension is spinning out of control and the Netanyahu administration is pushing the brink. It does not serve the best interests of Israel. (There are millions of innocent Israelis, who are not a party to this dangerous game.) It does not serve the best interests of the United States.<br /><br />Netanyahu, by continually pushing and threatening war, and AIPAC, by encouraging Netanyahu, is not helping Israel, in my opinion.<br /><br />My idea for the purpose of international diplomatic relations is to reduce tension, turn down the temperature on the "pressure cooker" rather than stoke the fire which can lead to catastrophic explosion. In other words, peaceful intercourse between nations.<br /><br />I agree, the neoconservatives' foreign policy is fundamentally at odds with lowering the temperature on the "pressure cooker" in international relations and, frankly, in my opinion, is a threat to the American constitutional, representative republic.<br /><br />I respect your personal experience. My research is limited to what I can find on the internet, however, I wonder if you were compartmentalized regarding the role of the CIA in the removal of the Shah and the installation of Ayatollah Khomeini. The information I have found suggests the U. S. government became aware the Shah had cancer and took the opportunity to install Khomeini (the Shah was becoming too independent and too much of a nationalist for the Elites' purposes) -- with Khomeini cooperating with the Elites' goals much more than is generally known, i.e., heroin production (by which the Elites profited) jumped in Iran after Khomeini was installed, nuclear energy research was curtailed, and liberal intellectuals were repressed: The Elite wanted a backward Iran and Khomeini was accommodating in this regard (some evidence, I don't know how reliable, suggests Khomeini was a long-term British asset).<br /><br />Be that as it may:<br /><br />I agree, the ultimate goal from the U. S. and leading NATO powers perspective of the Iraq - Iran war was to weaken both countries, so as to allow Western domination of the region and give Israel a stronger position, as a regional power.<br /><br />This is a tragedy because America can trade and have diplomatic relations with a healthy, self-confident Middle East on a Win/Win basis. Persia can be a positive contributor to a healthy and prosperous Middle East, which includes a secure Israel (for the sake of the innocent).<br /><br />It is not a zero-sum game, in my opinion, as opposed to how the neocons view international relations where there are only winners and losers. The neocon view is a failure of imagination (or, perhaps, it is a narrow vision induced by fanatical support of Israel).<br /><br />America can take foreign governments where we find them, in the state they are in, and engage diplomatically with those governments, without promises of support or threats of overthrow. This is the best foreign policy.<br /><br />This is not isolation, but direct diplomatic relations.<br /><br />At the current point in world affairs, stopping an Israeli - Iran war is the highest priority because it could drag the U. S. into a regional war causing economic depression at home (and a possible police state) and if things really go off the deep end, world war.<br /><br />Stopping the possiblity of World War is my redline.<br /><br /> <br /><br />Anacondahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05522474791573134808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-48932406639813463762012-09-26T23:53:43.467-07:002012-09-26T23:53:43.467-07:00Wow. fascinating. In spite of your credentials an...Wow. fascinating. In spite of your credentials and experience, you seem amazingly well grounded and honest. Wonder if you consider that this is all spiritual warfare. california womanlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402344444985908389noreply@blogger.com