tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post8674438237870564986..comments2024-03-21T02:23:19.513-07:00Comments on STEVE PIECZENIK <b>TALKS</b>: Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08376863188680913389noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-61859901922997990452013-03-04T22:18:13.767-08:002013-03-04T22:18:13.767-08:00Yes Americans are just now hearing that Germany wa...Yes Americans are just now hearing that Germany was crushed by Russia, not the "Band of Brothers." Americans' notions about that war are all pretty much a bunch of flag-waving garbage. Ask the Japanese and German citizens who survived American area bombing and you'll get the real picture of the "goodness of American power [as idiot Madeline Albright puts it]."<br /><br />As for Vodka staving off frostbite I have my doubts, but sounds like something stupid Russians would believe.<br /><br />Germany was crushed by the Russians because Germany couldn't replace their lost men and tanks while the Russians were turning out hundreds of tanks and day and had millions of men in reserve.<br /><br />It's too bad FDR was a German-hater from the Great War. He knew the British elites were pro-German, and spoke about this. However he never bothered to understand WHY the British aristocracy were opposed to their government's war aims and supported the German position.<br /><br />If FDR had been better informed the US could have stayed out and Germany could have sent eighty more divisions to the eastern Front. Were that to have occurred there never would have been a communist China, or wars in Korea, Vietnam, etc.<br /><br />Germany should have been allowed to win the war against the USSR, and to have made peace with France and the others.MITmichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14712376188659356195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-13369874174341454632013-03-04T14:12:58.069-08:002013-03-04T14:12:58.069-08:00Dr. Pieczenik,
You might be interested in this:
&...Dr. Pieczenik,<br /><br />You might be interested in this:<br />"‘Haaretz’ undermines a foundational myth: FDR abandoned Europe’s Jews" by Michael Desch<br />http://mondoweiss.net/2012/11/haaretz-undermines-a-foundational-myth-fdr-abandoned-europes-jews.htmlpolicycritichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14553863597467524081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-42007393757657170722013-03-04T14:02:07.952-08:002013-03-04T14:02:07.952-08:00"I think Stalin killed about 27 million peopl..."I think Stalin killed about 27 million people for sport, so if the Soviets had welcomed the Nazis and other anti-communists who attacked the USSR in 1941 instead of resisting them everyone there would have been a whole lot better off."<br /><br />You need to read up on Stalingrad and what the Germans were doing there. Whether you like the Russians or not, General Zhukov was an extraordinary general, and the Russian people and soldiers gave their all to help the Allies then. They couldn't afford proper shoes and socks, so Stalin gave them vodka so they could endure the cold winter walks with newspaper for socks. <br /><br />Read: "A Serious Case of Mistaken Identity — The U.S. is not the 'indispensable nation,' as a growing WWII mythology would suggest."<br />June 22, 2000|BENJAMIN SCHWARZ<br />http://articles.latimes.com/2000/jun/22/local/me-43656policycritichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14553863597467524081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-65143005338939833812013-03-04T07:32:50.073-08:002013-03-04T07:32:50.073-08:00"I always believed in the goodness of America..."I always believed in the goodness of American power."<br /><br />-- Madeline AlbrightMITmichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14712376188659356195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-26807158029283129902013-03-03T11:54:49.789-08:002013-03-03T11:54:49.789-08:00I previously posted a link to this story from anot...I previously posted a link to this story from another source, but it doesn't seem to be here. This source is from <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/03/sunday-review/the-holocaust-just-got-more-shocking.html?pagewanted=1&_r=4&adxnnlx=1362236748-5jy69MPKaw0svfJWxthXZQ&" rel="nofollow">The New York Times</a>:<br /> <br />The Holocaust Just Got More Shocking<br />By ERIC LICHTBLAU<br />Published: March 1, 2013<br />THIRTEEN years ago, researchers at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum began the grim task of documenting all the ghettos, slave labor sites, concentration camps and killing factories that the Nazis set up throughout Europe.<br /> <br />What they have found so far has shocked even scholars steeped in the history of the Holocaust.<br /> <br />The researchers have cataloged some 42,500 Nazi ghettos and camps throughout Europe, spanning German-controlled areas from France to Russia and Germany itself, during Hitler’s reign of brutality from 1933 to 1945.<br /> <br />The figure is so staggering that even fellow Holocaust scholars had to make sure they had heard it correctly when the lead researchers previewed their findings at an academic forum in late January at the German Historical Institute in Washington.Barry Popikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16203198416824735505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-78469007203089842682013-03-03T09:24:28.764-08:002013-03-03T09:24:28.764-08:00Some readers may have found my prior statements un...Some readers may have found my prior statements unsupported by proper documentation.<br /><br />Perhaps this will help:<br /><br />Benyamin Netanyahu:<br /><br />"Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories." -- Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, speaking to students at Bar Ilan University, from the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989.<br /><br />To refresh:<br /><br />Anaconda: "War with Iran is a necessary pretext, a piece of the puzzle, in a strategem to conquer & annex the West Bank with little or no respect or regard for the Palestinian People."<br /><br />"[Israel will not successfully annex the West Bank] Unless, there has already been a military attack on Iran, which can be used to obscure (military matters will hog the headlines) and justify (as military necessity) apartheid."<br /><br />Again, Benyamin Netanyahu:<br /><br />"Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories."<br /><br />How much easier to justify with a war against Iran?<br /><br />If Netanyahu was willing to carry out "mass expulsions" with the distraction of a protest and violent crackdown half a world away, it seems clear Bibbi would use an Iran War in a similar vein. <br /><br />I don't think Netanyahu has changed his M. O. at all.Anacondahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05522474791573134808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-89223135836027546162013-03-02T14:42:41.027-08:002013-03-02T14:42:41.027-08:00Yes Stephenson was more than a propagandist. As I...Yes Stephenson was more than a propagandist. As I said he also oversaw covert action against US individuals who opposed entry into the war, and he did have a floor at Rockefeller Center. Gore Vidal has said he ran 3,000 anti-German agents in the US, although I never saw the source for that.<br /><br />The British covert action in the US was both huge and stupid. They managed in 1941 to put a map into FDR's hands claiming to show that the Germans intended to carve up the wester Hemisphere!<br /><br />FDR referred to the map on radio, and then learned it was a hoax by the British and Stephenson.<br /><br />FDR then ordered Stephenson deported and the whole British program ended, but then a couple of weeks later the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor so he called it off.<br /><br />FDR knew about Stephenson and welcomed their efforts until he learned they were also makeing him a target...LOL.<br />FDR never figured out that most of his anti-German beliefs were founded on similar hoaxes by the British.<br /><br />btw...<br /><br />Stephenson and his "war camp" American supporters were pretty much all arms manufacturers, such as that might be in pre-WWII America, such as bullet and powder concerns, aircraft manufacturers and the like.MITmichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14712376188659356195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-44378451320635599232013-03-02T14:28:22.760-08:002013-03-02T14:28:22.760-08:00I think Stalin killed about 27 million people for ...I think Stalin killed about 27 million people for sport, so if the Soviets had welcomed the Nazis and other anti-communists who attacked the USSR in 1941 instead of resisting them everyone there would have been a whole lot better off.<br /><br />The Nazi invasion of the USSR was recent history's only real justifiable invasion of a country to save an entire continent from the depravations of a madman [Stalin]. The US invasion of Iraq in 2003 bears no resemblance. Saddam Hussein was a gentleman compared to creatures like Stalin, and surely Hussein never killed as many bystanders for little justification as W. Bush.<br /><br />I agree that mercantile interests cause some wars [imperial ones] but not others.<br /><br />Misperception, exaggeration of threats, bureaucratic and career interests, and a host of other things are the important causes in wars other than imperial ones. I think Lucian Pye would agree. MITmichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14712376188659356195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-63872183599948731562013-03-02T14:16:51.829-08:002013-03-02T14:16:51.829-08:00That's exactly what happens. Flesh doesn'...That's exactly what happens. Flesh doesn't "burn" because it's mostly water. To reduce any flesh and even bones to ashes and such a furnace [not an "oven"] with the same characteristics used to melt metals.<br /><br />In traditional south Asian cremations the body is put on top of a colossal pyramid of wood. As the wood burns the body falls through the middle of the brilliantly-hot embers, the enormous mass of which would create enough heat to melt iron or steel.<br /><br />When I looked into the holocaust stories about cremations in "ovens," pits, or stacks of wood [as in "Shindler's List," I was surprised to learn that THERE ARE ONLY A HANDFUL OF "WITNESSES" WHO HAVE MADE THESE CLAIMS.<br /><br />All of the popular myths about the holocaust are the product of only a handful of people who have made these claims, whereas there were hundreds of thousands of "survivors" who haven't.MITmichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14712376188659356195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-3874347705603695882013-03-02T09:42:05.930-08:002013-03-02T09:42:05.930-08:00Patriarch wrote: "The best thing that happene...Patriarch wrote: "The best thing that happened to the JEWS was that as a result of the death camps, Israel was once again RECLAIMED...a place to live far away from the madness of misanthropy."<br /><br />Really?<br /><br />There seems to be plenty of antagonism and hostility in the immediate Israeli vicinity. <br /><br />Apparently, according to many, not myself, Israel is under an existential threat. So, apparently, the more things change, the more they stay the same.<br /><br />Some would even say, "From the frying pan into the fire." <br /><br />While surviving via superior military might is a God given right (self-defense), it seems the U. S. and other countries offer just as good a place for Diaspora Jews as Israel. Perhaps, even better (and from strictly an American's perspective, it is better to live here in America than anywhere else in the world).<br /><br />Now, obviously there are many Jewish people who prefer to live in a Jewish community, even a Jewish nation, nothing wrong with that, but Israelis must also live in the larger Middle East community.<br /><br />To live in peace in the Middle East, Israelis need to take into consideration the other communities already there, too, not just their own community.<br /><br />This phrase, "A Land Without a People for a People Without a Land", was always false.<br /><br />"We must expel Arabs and take their places." -- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.<br /><br />Let's consider a couple of Golda Meir quotes:<br /><br />"There is no such thing as a Palestinian people... It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn't exist." -- Golda Meir, statement to The Sunday Times, 15 June, 1969.<br /><br />"How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to." -- Golda Meir, March 8, 1969.<br /><br />Both statements were and are false. <br /><br />But what is done is done.<br /><br />Best to strive for peace, now, and make the best of it. Israel has the potential to live in peace with its neighbors and be a leader and active participant in a thriving Middle East.<br /><br />Israel can be an example of peaceful cooperation, a light to the nations.<br /><br />Or it can be something else... it's the Israeli's choice... what will they decide?Anacondahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05522474791573134808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-28491442508175060252013-03-02T09:12:32.271-08:002013-03-02T09:12:32.271-08:00Security experts call for Brennan the Barabarian i...Security experts call for Brennan the Barabarian investigation:<br />Watch video press conference<br /><br />http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2013/02/27/conservative-leaders-launch-bicameral-congressional-investigation-into-benghazi-debacle/Patriarchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18138603022259989149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-7870756976400339382013-03-01T21:24:41.846-08:002013-03-01T21:24:41.846-08:00Wars are economic. Casualties are merely collatera...Wars are economic. Casualties are merely collateral. It is the military manufacturing that keeps a country in the black.<br />If any enlistee knew that in advance we would have to reinstutute the Draft.Patriarchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18138603022259989149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-91388224997600187642013-03-01T21:18:35.333-08:002013-03-01T21:18:35.333-08:00Off topic:
NDAA COURT CASE MEDIA BLACKOUT:
Video:...Off topic:<br /><br />NDAA COURT CASE MEDIA BLACKOUT:<br />Video:<br />http://beforeitsnews.com/war-on-terror/2013/02/ndaa-lawsuit-media-blackout-video-2443332.html<br />Patriarchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18138603022259989149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-15528595276322919542013-03-01T19:43:35.685-08:002013-03-01T19:43:35.685-08:00You're not left with ashes, you're left wi...You're not left with ashes, you're left with bones. It took two hours to cook my father in the oven to get to the bones. The funeral director explained that the heat had to be above 1400F (he preferred 1600F) and the oven had to be enclosed; they used gas. It took another two hours for the oven to cool down before they could open it, and before they could grind his bones for the urn.policycritichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14553863597467524081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-13362210376396175482013-03-01T19:37:35.652-08:002013-03-01T19:37:35.652-08:00We wouldn't be so quick to start wars if we ha...We wouldn't be so quick to start wars if we had gone through the horrors these people have been through. Look how we wail at 3,000 dead on 9/11. Imagine 27 million like Russia, or 3 million like Vietnam, or the 1.5 million in Iraq. Why can't we put ourselves in other people's shoes?<br /><br />Yet we persist in thinking that other countries want to go to war with us, as if their survivors don't tell their young ones of the abject destruction and catastrophic loss of life they witnessed. That's why I despise our armchair warmongers beating the drum for war now with Iran. I've never met anyone in the military, but i am sure there are some, who think war is for anything else but self-defense.policycritichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14553863597467524081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-61772182139519388902013-03-01T19:28:51.315-08:002013-03-01T19:28:51.315-08:00Forgot the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M...Forgot the link:<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-yphi6H84Epolicycritichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14553863597467524081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-65657165271286250652013-03-01T19:23:44.358-08:002013-03-01T19:23:44.358-08:00You diminish what Stephenson was doing during the ...You diminish what Stephenson was doing during the war, and teh circumstances under which he was doing them. Canada was part of the British commonwealth, so the Brits used vast, unpopulated Canada like a satellite operation from which to conduct clandestine operations. The Clifton Stewart interview link I give above establishes that MI6 was using Rockefeller Center as their base of operations with Roosevelt's secret approval because of American reluctance to get involved in another war. Who could blame them. Stephenson had the cover of a wealthy businessman from which to conduct operations at Rockefeller Center, and start Camp-X. He wasn't a mere propagandist. Canada and Britain begged Roosevelt for help for two years, but he couldn't do it. Neither Canada nor England had the male population to fight the war, although Britain pulled in people from its colonies. Canada had a population of around 11 million, less than 1/10th the size of the USA, in 1939 sprawled over a country second in land area to the USSR. It's permanent army then was around 4,000, and the reserves were around 50,000. (They ramped up quickly, to say the least.)<br /><br />The Royal Canadian Navy was established on the most extreme easterly outpost of Newfoundland, and some in Labrador--look at a map--tracking the German subs as they came down the coast from Greenland. My uncles were there; one was a RCN commander in charge of tracking those subs.policycritichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14553863597467524081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-59574432121400985372013-03-01T18:49:25.510-08:002013-03-01T18:49:25.510-08:00Dr. Pieczenik, thank you for telling this story.
...Dr. Pieczenik, thank you for telling this story.<br /><br />It is a good story of human decency and bravery. <br /><br />I'm afraid Bulgarians have gotten a bit of a bad rap in the popular media over the years.<br /><br />Dr. Pieczenik wrote: "Manichaean, good-guy, bad-guy scenario".<br /><br />I appreciate the focus on individual actors (or countries as the case may be).<br /><br />Some are good.<br /><br />Some are bad.<br /><br />Some are mixed in their actions, possibly conflicted with competing interests and morals.<br /><br />Most countries and peoples and individuals have a mixed record.<br /><br />The broad brush strokes of history tend to remove reality from the level of individual actors (with multiple exceptions, of course) to groups and nations.<br /><br />And sometimes it's appropriate, as it was, here, in your blog post to make reference.<br /><br />I did not know the story of the Bulgarians.<br /><br />Thank you.<br /><br />As important as it is to shed light on dark passages of history it is just as important to shine a bright light on human courage & decency.<br /><br />I will remember this story.<br /><br />The Black Sea coast of Bulgaria must be beautiful during the Summer. A tour from the coast to the mountains would be a pleasant experience, I'm sure.<br /><br />Kind-hearted men of good will with good will toward their fellow man "Unite!"Anacondahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05522474791573134808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-58110865405745155312013-03-01T18:19:10.206-08:002013-03-01T18:19:10.206-08:00Is the story of Capt. Dreyfus and Emile Zola jewis...<i>Is the story of Capt. Dreyfus and Emile Zola jewish folklore also?</i><br /><br />There are court records and transcripts, and newspaper accounts<br /><br />Israeli historian and chemistry professor Israel Shahak gave a talk in 1994 at MIT with Noam Chomsky. He grew up in Poland before his family emigrated to Israel either before or during the war. Shahak says that it was Napoleon, who after conquering Poland, "took from Jews the power to punish other Jews," and took from the Polish elites the power of deciding where Jews could live. They couldn't live in Warsaw for centuries beforehand. Napoleon said the Polish elites were "not entitled to their old privileges."<br /><br />Shahak starts his train of thought at 52 min, but gets into it at 58 min to approx 1:06:00. (8 minutes).<br /><br />The history of France immediately after the 1789 Revolution was that Orthodox Jews asked for two provinces where they could live as a separate entity within the new nation (they wanted a wine district). The new French government said Jews were absolutely entitled to exist equally with others (liberté, egalité, fraternité) within France 'qua individual', but they were not entitled to live 'qua nation'. So the history of France with respect to Jews had been established for 100 years before Zola came to the defense of the falsely accused Jewish Dreyfus.<br /><br />[I deleted a comment because it was easier to delete than contend with my unwieldy cursor to edit mistakes. ;-)]policycritichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14553863597467524081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-78616047405870528222013-03-01T18:15:06.961-08:002013-03-01T18:15:06.961-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.policycritichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14553863597467524081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-27171222908818535452013-03-01T17:34:05.411-08:002013-03-01T17:34:05.411-08:00Then there was the Holodomor, 1932-33.Then there was the Holodomor, 1932-33.policycritichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14553863597467524081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-77789637472821937142013-03-01T17:22:36.762-08:002013-03-01T17:22:36.762-08:00Furthermore,
I don't want to go off into a ta...Furthermore,<br /><br />I don't want to go off into a tangent about the false nature of holocast claims, but just one bit of common sense about CREMATION...<br /><br />It's impossible to cremate a body by burning it in a pit or the like.<br /><br />If you dig a pit and throw bodies and fuel in there you will roast the bodies and burn the outside, like in a Bar B Que.<br /><br />Creamation is burning a body until there is nothing left but ashes, and that takes a HUGE AND ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF FUEL AND TIME.<br /><br />Anyone ever try putting a brisket in an oven of any kind and cooking it until there's nothing left but ashes?<br /><br />The stories about bodies burned in pits and the like are just so extremely off the mark that it's absurd.MITmichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14712376188659356195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-84427242923346711822013-03-01T17:13:37.755-08:002013-03-01T17:13:37.755-08:00An example of a "pseudo-scholar" is Debo...An example of a "pseudo-scholar" is Deborah Lipstadt, who claims that no fuel was needed at the crematoria.<br /><br />An example of a genuine holocaust scholar is Raul Hilberg, the author of "The Destruction of the European Jews."<br /><br />Hilberg continues to use the testimony of camp survivors regarding mass killings, and puts the total deaths of the holocaust at far less than the "six million" often used popularly.<br /><br />In fact no holocaust scholar claims that "six million" Jews were killed.MITmichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14712376188659356195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-91166108018499214332013-03-01T17:06:37.613-08:002013-03-01T17:06:37.613-08:00As far as I know there were two real death camps d...As far as I know there were two real death camps during the war, neither run by Germans however. One was in Croatia where large numbers of Serbs and others were taken for execution by the Nazi-allied Croatian government. The other was in Ukraine, where anti-communist Ukrainians killed tens of thousands of Jews and others during the couple of years it operated, however even that camp has significant numbers of survivors. I can't remember the name of that camp but I think about 30,000 people were murdered there and there were about 6,000 survivors.MITmichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14712376188659356195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4480959310171271494.post-5057028694914278152013-03-01T16:56:05.210-08:002013-03-01T16:56:05.210-08:00Please remember that in the depression that German...Please remember that in the depression that Germany and the USSR were the only countries with full employment and a growing economies. Many if not most US businessmen did business with Germany at that time, and it wasn't until Germany and Russia attacked Poland that there was any real stigma attached to trading with Germany.<br /><br />It wasn't until after the war that the Russians and US Army intelligence began coming up with these stories about Nazi atrocities, and this was done to counter-vail potential criticism of the US and Britain for having killed huge numbers of civilians through strategi bombing [which was understood as a clear war crime].<br /><br />John Loftus is a highly accurate researcher. His facts are impeccible, however they are not put into context and he only tells half of the story.<br /><br />What you won't hear from Loftus is WHY these events occurred, and what motivated individuals who participated. Loftus merely presumes that it's all anti-semitism, but that's just not the case. There were many other factors involved.MITmichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14712376188659356195noreply@blogger.com