Another great film! Just reinforced the argument that history in the main repeats itself!(eg stop at nothing to implement an agenda) though what's disturbing is that even a president of America can be taken out with relatively little fuss! I'm sure the following presidents on occasion have been shall we say been reminded of that point!! So yes indeed its a great film with a great cast with a plot that was literally to die for! I'm led to believe that a lot of credit of the film should go to a certain Jim marrs whom I'm aware of and he certainly seems aware on most matters!
On the eight episode of WEBSTER! (featuring Webster Tarpley)
After Webster is seen by Mossad agent Arnon Milchan walking on the beach at Herb Alpert's estate in Malibu...
Webster goes to ground once again, this time finding refuge at the home of former Navy Secretary/Senater James Webb. Webb reaches out to Roger Ailes, Richard Perle and Lindsey Graham who were livid when they discovered that their XTC orgy was being furtively recorded by Webster, whom they had invited to attend. Richard Perle negotiates with Webb to have the false charges of XTC distribution pending against Webster dropped in exchange for a pledge by Webster to write a new book apologetic to the Neo-cons. Trapped and with no other options Webster agrees to the Perle's demands.
Interesting that you recommended this movie, I've heard that it was incredibly inaccurate, that it was really the CIA & the people who brought LBJ to power who took Kennedy out.
A much better film about Jim Garrison can be found on Youtube, "The Garrison Tapes" by John Barbour.
Garrison was on the right track in every way concerning the assassination. The only reason why his prosecution failed is because his witnesses were murdered. Then in 1975 during the Congressional hearings about CIA misconduct another slew of operators were assassinated, including a very close friend of mine who was killed in January 1975. Then when the House Select Committee on Assassinations took up the JFK killing another bunch of witnesses were killed before they could testify.
What happened in the JFK killing was the use of standard methods usually applied overseas. It was a totally exceptional situation because the next President, Johnson, was part of the plot. Johnson was a blatant criminal who took massive bribes, defrauded the government in countless ways, had three bastard children by two different women, murdered many people, and was known by all to be a psychopath in every sense of the word.
I don't believe that "history repeats itself" in that what happened with the Kennedy assassination is repeated in the US by CIA or anyone else. That event was almost unique in that the key was the participation of a criminal sociopath as President to guarantee its success.
I don't believe any other President in the 20th century or after, or probably even before, was a criminal psychopath in the way Johnson was.
I agree, the best evidence currently available supports the contention that LBJ was involved in the assassination plot and he was a criminal sociopath, who knew of and curried favor with the behind the scenes power brokers.
LBJ made reference to "masters of the universe" when he was Senate Majority Leader. Undoubtedly he knew of what he spoke.
I agree, LBJ was probably the most corrupt president both before his presidency and durring his presidency.
But Vietnam brought LBJ's reign to an end.
So sad that it took billions of dollars in wasted military expense and much more heartbreaking, the loss of nearly 60,000 U. S. military service personnel to bring down LBJ.
As a filmmaker myself I have issues with the style of the film in that it throws too much information at the audience too rapidly and fails to explain some things presented. I think Stone uses too much of a flowery style in his films, and I agree with Michael Cimino that Stone is a better writer than director. Stone seems to have been left behind in the influences of the "French New Wave" which influenced other directors of his generation (albeit that Stone really didn't get rolling until the 1980s).
I think if the film was paced differently it would have been more powerful.
Anyway the subsequent release of remaining records through the Assassination Review Board which came about because of the film has upheld Stone's argument. As Stone himself says,"I got about five things wrong and about fifty bigger things right..."
Ha ha! Seems we have common grounds of sorts here!! So if a president can be assassinated its surely not beyond the realms of reality that these latest acts couldn't be executed by a government, I take on board the history not being repeated line off MIT Michael and he may well be right but I think what I meant to convey was maybe presidents now realise even they must tow the line as it were! I may be miles off in my thinking but alas it makes us do exactly that...think!
I believe 9-11 was an inside job involving Cheney and a few others who arranged drills and a stand down so that the plan could work - the plan being operated by Israel and the Saudis.
However Bush wasn't a part of it, and he was out of communication for over four hours while it occurred.
These kinds of conspiracies do exist but they are very rare and they happen from time to time when people in various places all have the same purpose and coordinate with each other.
What I disagree with however is that these events are an on-going chain because government continually operates in this manner.
If bush wasn't part of the stand down (and this may well be correct) it strengthens the case for argument that yes indeed even presidents do actually how the line as it were, but what pattern I'm forming is you have Eisenhower warning of the military industrial complex then the Kennedy affair then Nixon then we have the bush clan then Buffalo bill Clinton now Obama! Now fair enough their is plenty of spaces I've left out but to be brutally frank I don't know enough about American history and rely on others to inform me on that score! But I would have to say the trend forming on my basic observation doesn't bode well! I'd like to learn of anyone's thoughts on the real power structure behind the theatre and facade of presidency! Kennedy hailed from Irish Mafia whom was assassinated seemingly by LBJ then you have Nixon!(to be fair he was on a hiding to nothing as he wasn't a willing participant of Bohemian Grove) then the Bush dynasty (junior being the most inept but hey the man's an alcoholic) fast forward billy who didn't have sexual relations and didn't inhale(seemed Monica inhaled something under that leather topped desk) to where we are today with Barack(or is it Barry? Who knows? No birth certificate, is he Kenyan is he Hawaiian?? Allegations of 'sauna' evenings in Chicago,) to be fair though I share a common thread will all the above in so far as I'd have hated Bohemian grove I love a drink, and hey I've lost my passport and as for Monica under the desk!! Well draw your own conclusions! But I'm not pontificating to be holier than thou and more importantly my finger ain't on no button! But you see my point all the above have something over them don't they and that's the direction of where to start and look for the real people in power I humbly submit
The way you get ahead in a system like the United States is to deceive the public, manipulate everyone around you, and act in any way you can imagine to accumulate as much wealth and power to yourself as you can.
Americans have a civic culture which programs them to assume that their society is the opposite of what it really is.
If Americans understood what their country and state actually is then every American would run out, find the nearest American flag fying nearby, pull it down, light it on fire, and stomp on it.
America is a sick society with a government of evildoers, at least as evil as any, and that includes America's enemies over the years such as the communists, facists, and anyone else.
Here's the blurb from wanttoknow.info, run by the ex-State Department Presidential translator who quit in the middle-aughts rather than sign a nondisclosure agreement into the year 2300 AD. His name is Fred Burks. http://www.wanttoknow.info/aboutus
"Important note on 48th anniversary of JFK's death: In 2003, the History Channel completed an amazingly revealing nine-part series titled "The Men Who Killed Kennedy." The ninth and final episode provides powerful evidence that Lyndon Johnson was directly involved in JFK's assassination. In the first minute his lawyer [Bush press officer's father] states, "I know as attorney for Lyndon Johnson that he murdered John Kennedy." Johnson's family and supporters successfully threatened History Channel, so that they no longer air or sell this key final segment of the series. Yet we obtained a copy and have posted it to our video section. If you are ready to have your eyes opened, watch even the first few minutes of this most powerful documentary available at this link."
Here's the link Fred mentions: http://www.personalgrowthcourses.net/video/assassinations/men_who_killed_kennedy_9_assassinations
Everything you EVER WANTED TO KNOW about our EVIL CORRUPT GOVERNMENT BUT WERE AFRAID TO FIND OUT: Move these interviews forward FAR & WIDE: let the word go forth from this day forward- ask now what your GOVERNENT has done to the CONSTITUTION, TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHAT THEY MUST DO TO RESURRECT IT!
"The illegal we can do immediately; the unconstitutional takes a bit longer" Henry Kissinger
The CIA & its puppet OBAMA, are gleeful they succeeded in a martial law drill in Boston & got away with it without a hitch; now onto more cities, brazenly believing they continue the LAWLESS TREASON AGAINST AMERICA & continue the the PSYCHOPATHY& FLEECING OF AMERICA. it is the immigrant, resettled here from a DICTATORSHIP , who has recognized the evil in our midst permeating our sensibilities like a frog in slow boiling water. Watch these videos more than once & send them to those you love. THE MESSAGE IS EASY TO UNDERSTAND: LOUD & CLEAR!
Sibel Edmonds CONNECTS THE PLOT TO MURDER a Russian National. http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=plcp&v=TbxFM9X6IC0
Ron Paul warns us about usurping unconstitutional powers by Obama: martial law http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=plcp&v=PASpTqA-etM
The mother KNOWS & now they put her on a fake list to silence her: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2315247/Boston-Marathon-bombings-Parents-Boston-bombing-suspects-fled-home-Russia-father-longer-planning-fly-U-S-week-bury-son.html
Big Picture playing out globally TO DATE: http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2013/04/26/breaking-news-russias-fsb-detains-140-in-moscow-for-connection-to-caucasus-tied-islamist-extremist-groups/
NOW YOU UNDERSTAND THE SINISTER MOTIVES & who is running AMERICA. They continue the same playbook because THEY CAN.
While CNN IS PLAYING "detective" the CIA IS STARTING ANOTHER INFERNO IN SYRIA. They must all be charged with TREASON & crimes against humanity: Obama Brennan Mueller Clinton Napolitano DEVAL Patrick BREZYNSKI WOOLSLEY & KISSINGER FOR STARTERS.
Email these links to everyone on your lists over the weekend telling them to forward them & EMAIL THEM TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS IN THEIR BOSTON OFFICE: USA v. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Criminal Action # 13-MJ-02016-MBB Office of the Federal Public Defenders Miriam Conrad, Esq. William Fick, Esq, and Timothy Watkins 51 Sleeper Street 5th floor, Boston, Ma. 02210
Sibel Edmonds Part II the Patsies and Putin: All Roads Lead to Graham Fuller, evil mastermind: http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2013/04/27/bfp-breaking-news-boston-terror-cias-graham-fuller-nato-cia-operation-gladio-b-caucasus-central-asia/
Here are the Federal Public Defenders' emails: Federal Defenders' Office Boston bostondefender@fd.org Miriam Conrad, esq. mconrad@fd.org William Fick, esq. wfick@fd.org Tim Watchins, esq twatkins@fd.org'
DO NOT THINK TWICE! SEND THEM LINKS TO THE TRAIL OF SUPPRESSED EVIDENCE WHEN YOU FIND IT. If they are not compromised, they will hire a detective to find the source of the bombing conspiracy; if nothing changes, you know they are in the bag for the CIA and their advocacy is pro-forma, and their motions to dismiss are boilerplate. if the judge receives evidence of a frame up, no way will this kid be tried and convicted.
SEND THEM THE SIBEL EDMONDS' LINKS: PART I (ABOVE) AND PART II ON THE SYRIA PUTIN CHECHYN DISSIDENT ARRANGEMENT AND CIA GRAHAM FULLER LINK TO THE BOMBING.
THE MORE WHO SEND IT , THE MORE CURIOUS THEY WILL BE TO INVESTIGATE. AS OF NOW, THEIR LEADS ARE MEDIA MOCKINGBIRDS.
Another great film! Just reinforced the argument that history in the main repeats itself!(eg stop at nothing to implement an agenda) though what's disturbing is that even a president of America can be taken out with relatively little fuss! I'm sure the following presidents on occasion have been shall we say been reminded of that point!! So yes indeed its a great film with a great cast with a plot that was literally to die for! I'm led to believe that a lot of credit of the film should go to a certain Jim marrs whom I'm aware of and he certainly seems aware on most matters!
ReplyDeleteOn the eight episode of WEBSTER! (featuring Webster Tarpley)
DeleteAfter Webster is seen by Mossad agent Arnon Milchan walking on the beach at Herb Alpert's estate in Malibu...
Webster goes to ground once again, this time finding refuge at the home of former Navy Secretary/Senater James Webb. Webb reaches out to Roger Ailes, Richard Perle and Lindsey Graham who were livid when they discovered that their XTC orgy was being furtively recorded by Webster, whom they had invited to attend. Richard Perle negotiates with Webb to have the false charges of XTC distribution pending against Webster dropped in exchange for a pledge by Webster to write a new book apologetic to the Neo-cons. Trapped and with no other options Webster agrees to the Perle's demands.
Interesting that you recommended this movie, I've heard that it was incredibly inaccurate, that it was really the CIA & the people who brought LBJ to power who took Kennedy out.
ReplyDeleteA much better film about Jim Garrison can be found on Youtube, "The Garrison Tapes" by John Barbour.
ReplyDeleteGarrison was on the right track in every way concerning the assassination. The only reason why his prosecution failed is because his witnesses were murdered. Then in 1975 during the Congressional hearings about CIA misconduct another slew of operators were assassinated, including a very close friend of mine who was killed in January 1975. Then when the House Select Committee on Assassinations took up the JFK killing another bunch of witnesses were killed before they could testify.
What happened in the JFK killing was the use of standard methods usually applied overseas. It was a totally exceptional situation because the next President, Johnson, was part of the plot. Johnson was a blatant criminal who took massive bribes, defrauded the government in countless ways, had three bastard children by two different women, murdered many people, and was known by all to be a psychopath in every sense of the word.
I don't believe that "history repeats itself" in that what happened with the Kennedy assassination is repeated in the US by CIA or anyone else. That event was almost unique in that the key was the participation of a criminal sociopath as President to guarantee its success.
I don't believe any other President in the 20th century or after, or probably even before, was a criminal psychopath in the way Johnson was.
I agree, the best evidence currently available supports the contention that LBJ was involved in the assassination plot and he was a criminal sociopath, who knew of and curried favor with the behind the scenes power brokers.
DeleteLBJ made reference to "masters of the universe" when he was Senate Majority Leader. Undoubtedly he knew of what he spoke.
I agree, LBJ was probably the most corrupt president both before his presidency and durring his presidency.
But Vietnam brought LBJ's reign to an end.
So sad that it took billions of dollars in wasted military expense and much more heartbreaking, the loss of nearly 60,000 U. S. military service personnel to bring down LBJ.
Furthermore on JFK...
ReplyDeleteAs a filmmaker myself I have issues with the style of the film in that it throws too much information at the audience too rapidly and fails to explain some things presented. I think Stone uses too much of a flowery style in his films, and I agree with Michael Cimino that Stone is a better writer than director. Stone seems to have been left behind in the influences of the "French New Wave" which influenced other directors of his generation (albeit that Stone really didn't get rolling until the 1980s).
I think if the film was paced differently it would have been more powerful.
Anyway the subsequent release of remaining records through the Assassination Review Board which came about because of the film has upheld Stone's argument. As Stone himself says,"I got about five things wrong and about fifty bigger things right..."
Or said in another way....
ReplyDeleteIf Stone would direct a little more like Friedkin, Pollack or Lumet rather than Spielberg it would suit his subject matter better.
Ha ha! Seems we have common grounds of sorts here!! So if a president can be assassinated its surely not beyond the realms of reality that these latest acts couldn't be executed by a government, I take on board the history not being repeated line off MIT Michael and he may well be right but I think what I meant to convey was maybe presidents now realise even they must tow the line as it were! I may be miles off in my thinking but alas it makes us do exactly that...think!
ReplyDeleteI believe 9-11 was an inside job involving Cheney and a few others who arranged drills and a stand down so that the plan could work - the plan being operated by Israel and the Saudis.
DeleteHowever Bush wasn't a part of it, and he was out of communication for over four hours while it occurred.
These kinds of conspiracies do exist but they are very rare and they happen from time to time when people in various places all have the same purpose and coordinate with each other.
What I disagree with however is that these events are an on-going chain because government continually operates in this manner.
If bush wasn't part of the stand down (and this may well be correct) it strengthens the case for argument that yes indeed even presidents do actually how the line as it were, but what pattern I'm forming is you have Eisenhower warning of the military industrial complex then the Kennedy affair then Nixon then we have the bush clan then Buffalo bill Clinton now Obama! Now fair enough their is plenty of spaces I've left out but to be brutally frank I don't know enough about American history and rely on others to inform me on that score! But I would have to say the trend forming on my basic observation doesn't bode well! I'd like to learn of anyone's thoughts on the real power structure behind the theatre and facade of presidency! Kennedy hailed from Irish Mafia whom was assassinated seemingly by LBJ then you have Nixon!(to be fair he was on a hiding to nothing as he wasn't a willing participant of Bohemian Grove) then the Bush dynasty (junior being the most inept but hey the man's an alcoholic) fast forward billy who didn't have sexual relations and didn't inhale(seemed Monica inhaled something under that leather topped desk) to where we are today with Barack(or is it Barry? Who knows? No birth certificate, is he Kenyan is he Hawaiian?? Allegations of 'sauna' evenings in Chicago,) to be fair though I share a common thread will all the above in so far as I'd have hated Bohemian grove I love a drink, and hey I've lost my passport and as for Monica under the desk!! Well draw your own conclusions! But I'm not pontificating to be holier than thou and more importantly my finger ain't on no button! But you see my point all the above have something over them don't they and that's the direction of where to start and look for the real people in power I humbly submit
DeleteAmerica is not a society that breeds honesty.
DeleteThe way you get ahead in a system like the United States is to deceive the public, manipulate everyone around you, and act in any way you can imagine to accumulate as much wealth and power to yourself as you can.
Americans have a civic culture which programs them to assume that their society is the opposite of what it really is.
If Americans understood what their country and state actually is then every American would run out, find the nearest American flag fying nearby, pull it down, light it on fire, and stomp on it.
America is a sick society with a government of evildoers, at least as evil as any, and that includes America's enemies over the years such as the communists, facists, and anyone else.
The purpose of 9-11 was the invasion of Iraq to destroy the Ba'ath party there. Period.
DeleteAnother film is this one.
ReplyDeleteHere's the blurb from wanttoknow.info, run by the ex-State Department Presidential translator who quit in the middle-aughts rather than sign a nondisclosure agreement into the year 2300 AD. His name is Fred Burks.
http://www.wanttoknow.info/aboutus
"Important note on 48th anniversary of JFK's death: In 2003, the History Channel completed an amazingly revealing nine-part series titled "The Men Who Killed Kennedy." The ninth and final episode provides powerful evidence that Lyndon Johnson was directly involved in JFK's assassination. In the first minute his lawyer [Bush press officer's father] states, "I know as attorney for Lyndon Johnson that he murdered John Kennedy." Johnson's family and supporters successfully threatened History Channel, so that they no longer air or sell this key final segment of the series. Yet we obtained a copy and have posted it to our video section. If you are ready to have your eyes opened, watch even the first few minutes of this most powerful documentary available at this link."
Here's the link Fred mentions:
http://www.personalgrowthcourses.net/video/assassinations/men_who_killed_kennedy_9_assassinations
Everything you EVER WANTED TO KNOW about our EVIL CORRUPT GOVERNMENT BUT WERE AFRAID TO FIND OUT:
ReplyDeleteMove these interviews forward FAR & WIDE: let the word go forth from this day forward- ask now what your GOVERNENT has done to the CONSTITUTION, TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHAT THEY MUST DO TO RESURRECT IT!
"The illegal we can do immediately; the unconstitutional takes a bit longer" Henry Kissinger
The CIA & its puppet OBAMA, are gleeful they succeeded in a martial law drill in Boston & got away with it without a hitch; now onto more cities, brazenly believing they continue the LAWLESS TREASON AGAINST AMERICA & continue the the PSYCHOPATHY& FLEECING OF AMERICA. it is the immigrant, resettled here from a DICTATORSHIP , who has recognized the evil in our midst permeating our sensibilities like a frog in slow boiling water.
Watch these videos more than once & send them to those you love. THE MESSAGE IS EASY TO UNDERSTAND: LOUD & CLEAR!
Sibel Edmonds CONNECTS THE PLOT TO MURDER a Russian National.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=plcp&v=TbxFM9X6IC0
Ron Paul warns us about usurping unconstitutional powers by Obama: martial law
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=plcp&v=PASpTqA-etM
The mother KNOWS & now they put her on a fake list to silence her:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2315247/Boston-Marathon-bombings-Parents-Boston-bombing-suspects-fled-home-Russia-father-longer-planning-fly-U-S-week-bury-son.html
Big Picture playing out globally TO DATE:
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2013/04/26/breaking-news-russias-fsb-detains-140-in-moscow-for-connection-to-caucasus-tied-islamist-extremist-groups/
NOW YOU UNDERSTAND THE SINISTER MOTIVES & who is running AMERICA.
They continue the same playbook because THEY CAN.
While CNN IS PLAYING "detective" the CIA IS STARTING ANOTHER INFERNO IN SYRIA.
They must all be charged with TREASON & crimes against humanity:
Obama Brennan Mueller Clinton Napolitano DEVAL Patrick BREZYNSKI WOOLSLEY & KISSINGER FOR STARTERS.
Email these links to everyone on your lists over the weekend telling them to forward them &
EMAIL THEM TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS IN THEIR BOSTON OFFICE:
USA v. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
Criminal Action # 13-MJ-02016-MBB
Office of the Federal Public Defenders
Miriam Conrad, Esq. William Fick, Esq, and Timothy Watkins 51 Sleeper Street 5th floor, Boston, Ma. 02210
Federal Public Defender Office,
DeleteMassachusetts
51 Sleeper Street, 5th Floor
Boston, MA 02210
Phone: (617) 223-8061
Fax: (617) 223-8080
Email: bostondefender@fd.org
corrected links:
Deletethe above are mobile links:
these are desktop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbxFM9X6IC0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PASpTqA-etM
Was anyone aware that Deval Patrick is the winner of the Tiger Woods and LL Cool J. look-alike contests?
Delete=o)
Sibel Edmonds Part II the Patsies and Putin:
DeleteAll Roads Lead to Graham Fuller, evil mastermind:
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2013/04/27/bfp-breaking-news-boston-terror-cias-graham-fuller-nato-cia-operation-gladio-b-caucasus-central-asia/
Here are the Federal Public Defenders' emails:
Federal Defenders' Office Boston
bostondefender@fd.org
Miriam Conrad, esq. mconrad@fd.org
William Fick, esq. wfick@fd.org
Tim Watchins, esq twatkins@fd.org'
DO NOT THINK TWICE!
SEND THEM LINKS TO THE TRAIL OF SUPPRESSED EVIDENCE WHEN YOU FIND IT. If they are not compromised, they will hire a detective to find the source of the bombing conspiracy; if nothing changes, you know they are in the bag for the CIA and their advocacy is pro-forma, and their motions to dismiss are boilerplate.
if the judge receives evidence of a frame up, no way will this kid be tried and convicted.
SEND THEM THE SIBEL EDMONDS' LINKS: PART I (ABOVE) AND PART II ON THE SYRIA PUTIN CHECHYN DISSIDENT ARRANGEMENT AND CIA GRAHAM FULLER LINK TO THE BOMBING.
THE MORE WHO SEND IT , THE MORE CURIOUS THEY WILL BE TO INVESTIGATE. AS OF NOW, THEIR LEADS ARE MEDIA MOCKINGBIRDS.