Patriarch, you are a good man. You want to know the truth of the matter, and I believe you put America first. I understand why most people of the Jewish faith support Israel (although, not all), but there is overwhelming evidence that certain politicians and political factions within Israel have engaged in actions that are not defensible.
In fact, in their drive to protect Israel, they do things that actually put Israel at risk.
Israel, right or wrong, is a recipe for extreme danger for Israel. In my opinion, the attitude that Israel can do no wrong is analogous to an enabler of an alcoholic or drug addict.
As in giving Israel a blank check enables bad actors to do things that in the end cause blowback in America which is increasingly alienating more Americans from Israel.
For Israel and its supporters, here, in America, it would be wise to not take advantage of sympathy or other emotional attachments (or political contributions to members of Congress) of the American People.
Continued abuses will eventually reach a breaking point for the American People and it will be politically impossible (in spite of political contributions) to continue to support Israel.
Patriarch, you are a perceptive man and you state here on this blog there are a lot of conspiracies, can you understand from you vast research why there are people who don't support Israel, based on Israel's record toward the Palestinians and other Arabs and Arab states?
Even for actions involving the United States?
Do you want war with Iran?
Why is that an important question? Because should AIPAC and other supporters of Israel, such as the neocons, get their way and cause the U. S. to militarily attack Iran and it goes badly, much worse than Iraq (and it is quite clear that Netanyahu, AIPAC, and the neocons are the driving force for war with Iran), that Israel and its supporters will be blamed.
A war with Iran that goes badly for the U. S., in terms of dead Americans and economic disaster, could be the straw that breaks the camel's back and totally alienates the American People from Israel.
Dr. Pieczenik, regarding Clinton, if the VT piece is accurate, think about it, starting with Bush Sr., each and every president has had some kind of connection with the CIA (Bush Jr. via his father).
Does that suggest we have a serious problem?
No wonder a surveillance state/police state has developed over those years and seemingly is being completed by Obama.
I was incorporating by inference the CIA's evil plan to enter a war with Syria aka WWIII: Scapegoat contractors as "snipers" & create murder & mayhem at MetLife stadium. The problem here is BARI Malik Shabazz is A very bad LIAR--BJ CLINTON & Bush dunce 43, were far better.
John BRENNAN is a sick sociopath opportunist. He is in denial that like Colby, he will be dispensable when compromised. He will be gone permanently soon. It was his company which uploaded the fake benghazi video on youtube. His logo was his fingerprint. Can you imagine? A CIA MAN IS SO DUMB TO LEAVE HIS CALLING CARD?
First he must nuke and commence WWIII.
AS FOR Israel, they are smaller in sq miles than NJ. YOU GIVE THEM FAR TOO MUCH CREDIT.
THEY ARE ALL BLUSTER. THEY HAVE LOST EVERY WAR SINCE1972.
Their only success was the 1976 entebbe rescue.
You see them as political only. I see them with many facets.
They talk loudly & carry a small stick---after almost 30 years they have zero influence to commute Jonathan Pollard's life sentence ( plea bargain never charged with espionage, merely 1 count of passing classified info to an ALLY, no harm to USA was implicit in sentencing memorandum.)
CORZINE skated with zero punishment-so will menendez. Holder will be disbarred after 2016-maybe even prison.
VT USES ISRAEL AS A SCAPEGOAT IN EVERY ARTICLE. THEY ARE THE DANGER TO LIBERTY, NOT ISRAEL.
HERE IS A SUPERBOWL WARNING VIDEO. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2rsPkaseitk&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D2rsPkaseitk
IF WE INVADE SYRIA, IT IS THE SAME MODEL AS IRAQ, BLAME THEM FOR THE UNPATRIOTIC PEOPLE MURDERING US IN COLD BLOOD BEHIND THEIR OPAQUE VELVET DRAPES DRAWN AT LANGLEY & 1600 PA AV 20500.
If something were to happen at the Super Bowl on Sunday, people would start selling off on Friday. The stock market would go down today...wait a minute, let me check,,,down 200+ points...oh no...
The Super Bowl is so high security that you can't possibly blame it on one lone nut shooter. You can't even blame it on a group. There's been a highly published warning. They can't get away with a false flag at the Super Bowl, can they?
Then again, anthrax could only have come from the U.S. government and they got away with that. The recent LAX shooting showed a dummy during a drill and they got away with that. There was video of the Boston Marathon incident and they got away with that.
I know the false flags that happened in 2012 and 2013. I know things are being planned for 2014 and I wouldn't bet against anything at the Super Bowl. However, multiple soft targets are much easier to pull off. Obama is still going after guns and amnesty (thanks Republicans!) and retirement savings, so I think it's too early for a big event. But who knows?
At least we have armies of young sleuths with their smart phones ready to make real movies to counter the disturbed Obama and his cast of demented shills and army of Hollywood actors creating these fear events.
DHS IS PLANNING A HUGE DISASTER - long overdue since DC SHIPYARD.
THEY WILL "fail" again, get their budget inflated, Increase our catastrophic debt, & deprive us of more liberties.
SECURITY at MetLife stadium in name only. If the CIA WANTS TO START A WAR with Syria, the superbowl is the best "justification".
Clapper lied again to congress this week- he said al Qaeda is a renegade group & "viable". He had NO EYE CONTACT, FIDGETING AS HE LIED, SHUFFLING PAPERS. ask an FBI AGENT THE BODY LANGUAGE OF A VERY BAD LIAR.
Patriarch, its Mr. and while you are correct that Israel's wars haven't been particularly successful, you are wrong to say Israel doesn't have influence in the U. S.
Example: Netanyahu gives a speech to a joint session of Congress and there are 29 standing ovations.
Apparently, you deny that AIPAC has been behind the push for a sanctions bill in the U. S. Senate.
Apparently, you don't think the fact that the U. S. Congress voted for 3.1 billion dollars to Israel this year is a measure of its supporters influence in Congress.
Patriarch, did you know Jewish people provide over half the political contributions to the Democratic Party and almost half for the Republican Party?
I could go on, but to claim Israel has little influence in the U.S. Congress is to simply be in denial.
What about the USS Liberty incident?
What about the Lavon Affair (1956), where Israel (much later) admitted to sending agents into Egypt to bomb places where Americans congregated and then blame on Egyptians? This is an admitted FACT.
Of course, you failed to address my comments regarding war with Iran.
Standing o's do not mean the USA supports israel, merely congress. Jews are bi partisan. Standing o's are boilerplate. HYPE.
AIPAC had 2 executives charged with espionage, though the cases were dismissed, the taint remains.
You believe media hype.
If israel was so powerful, we would have infiltrated Iran already at their behest.
The state department TOLERATES THEM, SINCE '48.
Read about golda Meir & the Yom Kippur War.
As for the US LIBERTY, I can only believe that israel was in the midst of a massive border war, & IDF CHIEF OF STAFF RABIN became paranoid. It was the same anxiety, which ultimately set himself up for assassination.
I do not support ANY WAR. I WAS LIED TO WHEN I SIGNED UP FOR THE RESERVES IN MY SOPHOMORE YEAR AT BROWN. 6 weeks later, I was drafted. The military preparation from one camp to another until I was shipped to IWO JIMA was run mostly by morons. We simply were ill prepared until I was trained to be a radio transmitter repairman.
I just completed my memoirs for my kids & I am convinced based upon present patterns of false flags that the USA entered the War knowing that an "incident " ( Pearl Harbor) was planned & known in advance.
The ONLY entre into war with Iran was to knock out Syria, which was Israel's desire & advice.
Obviously, Congress did not comply with Israel's plans.
As far as Lavon, I do not know more than I've read--that Israel needed continuous security assistance from withdrawing British troops, so they created an incident to galvanize support.
Have you ever heard any POTUS say he "read about it in the paper" after he created a terrorist attack?
Hmn. Nothing new under the sun.
I apologize sir. I was under the impression you were female.
Radio talker Michael Savage said today that 92 nuclear officers have been purged, and he wonders why no one talks about it. (Savage told of a previous purge in October 2013.) Oh yes, Super Bowl, Justin Beiber--that's our news. From a tweet:
R A @monkeydogman Obama has purged 92 MORE officers from the USA's Nuclear Command. Why is he purging our military? (Per Michael Savage) 4:14 PM - 31 Jan 2014
This was originally posted on Menendez piece 1-30-14: http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2014/01/30/more-implicated-nuclear-cheating-scandal/045dMN4cOaALrTJywDsW3H/story.htm
MetLife Stadium suspicious selection: "FYI about the venue for the 2014 Superbowl… The NFL has a rule that the venue for the Superbowl must either have 50 degree weather in February or be an indoor stadium (domed). In the 47 year history of the Superbowl, only four years has the venue been in cold climes: #16 Pontiac, MI “Silverdome” #26 Minneapolis, MN, “Metrodome” #40 Detroit, MI, “Ford Field” (domed) #46 Indianapolis, IN, “Lucas Oil Stadium” (retractable roof) The other 43 Superbowls were in places like Miami, New Orleans, etc. thus satisfying the 50degree rule. However, the 2014 Superbowl is a first. It is the first time that the game will be played in a non-domed stadium in a cold climate city! The reason for the waiver from the NFL would be interesting to know. Interestingly, the MetLife Stadium has a few more unique attributes: + The largest seating of all the NFL stadiums + The most expensive stadium of all the NFL stadiums + The only stadium to host two teams: NY Jets, NY Giants + The only stadium whose proposed corporate naming sponsor, Allianz, was fought by the Jewish Anti-Defamation League because the German company had strong ties to the Nazi’s in WWII. MetLife was eventually awarded naming rights but the controversy with the German financial giant Allianz remains intriguing. I don’t know what this all means but it is safe to say that this Sunday’s SuperBowl is being played in the MOST unique venue of all the NFL venues and it is only because someone gave a special waiver for it to happen. It is against the 48 year standing policy of the NFL to play in a place like this." http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/01/superbowl-open-air-false-flag-mass-transit-bottlenecks-and-bioterrorism-video-2888178.html
It is mandatory that "Israel" per se is inserted by inference in EVERY VT TODAY PIECE...
ReplyDeleteTHEN THEIR CREDIBILITY GOES OUT THE WINDOW.
LOW LIFE SCAPEGOATERS...TYPICAL IGNORAMI
"SNIPERS" locked & loaded at MetLife Stadium.
ReplyDeleteWho pray tell will they blame this catastrophe on?
Syrian infiltrators- the only way to conquer Assad during the Olympics.
http://www.my9nj.com/story/24574587/super-bowl-snipers
Patriarch, do you want to conquer Assad?
DeleteDo you care about all the Christians that the terrorists, supported by Saudi Arabia and the U. S. are murdering in Syria?
Patriarch, you are a good man. You want to know the truth of the matter, and I believe you put America first. I understand why most people of the Jewish faith support Israel (although, not all), but there is overwhelming evidence that certain politicians and political factions within Israel have engaged in actions that are not defensible.
ReplyDeleteIn fact, in their drive to protect Israel, they do things that actually put Israel at risk.
Israel, right or wrong, is a recipe for extreme danger for Israel. In my opinion, the attitude that Israel can do no wrong is analogous to an enabler of an alcoholic or drug addict.
As in giving Israel a blank check enables bad actors to do things that in the end cause blowback in America which is increasingly alienating more Americans from Israel.
For Israel and its supporters, here, in America, it would be wise to not take advantage of sympathy or other emotional attachments (or political contributions to members of Congress) of the American People.
Continued abuses will eventually reach a breaking point for the American People and it will be politically impossible (in spite of political contributions) to continue to support Israel.
Patriarch, you are a perceptive man and you state here on this blog there are a lot of conspiracies, can you understand from you vast research why there are people who don't support Israel, based on Israel's record toward the Palestinians and other Arabs and Arab states?
Even for actions involving the United States?
Do you want war with Iran?
Why is that an important question? Because should AIPAC and other supporters of Israel, such as the neocons, get their way and cause the U. S. to militarily attack Iran and it goes badly, much worse than Iraq (and it is quite clear that Netanyahu, AIPAC, and the neocons are the driving force for war with Iran), that Israel and its supporters will be blamed.
A war with Iran that goes badly for the U. S., in terms of dead Americans and economic disaster, could be the straw that breaks the camel's back and totally alienates the American People from Israel.
Dr. Pieczenik, regarding Clinton, if the VT piece is accurate, think about it, starting with Bush Sr., each and every president has had some kind of connection with the CIA (Bush Jr. via his father).
Does that suggest we have a serious problem?
No wonder a surveillance state/police state has developed over those years and seemingly is being completed by Obama.
Madam Anaconda,
ReplyDeleteI was incorporating by inference the CIA's evil plan to enter a war with Syria aka WWIII:
Scapegoat contractors as "snipers" & create murder & mayhem at MetLife stadium.
The problem here is BARI Malik Shabazz is A very bad LIAR--BJ CLINTON & Bush dunce 43, were far better.
John BRENNAN is a sick sociopath opportunist.
He is in denial that like Colby, he will be dispensable when compromised. He will be gone permanently soon. It was his company which uploaded the fake benghazi video on youtube. His logo was his fingerprint. Can you imagine? A CIA MAN IS SO DUMB TO LEAVE HIS CALLING CARD?
First he must nuke and commence WWIII.
AS FOR Israel, they are smaller in sq miles than NJ. YOU GIVE THEM FAR TOO MUCH CREDIT.
THEY ARE ALL BLUSTER. THEY HAVE LOST EVERY WAR SINCE1972.
Their only success was the 1976 entebbe rescue.
You see them as political only. I see them with many facets.
They talk loudly & carry a small stick---after almost 30 years they have zero influence to commute Jonathan Pollard's life sentence ( plea bargain never charged with espionage, merely 1 count of passing classified info to an ALLY, no harm to USA was implicit in sentencing memorandum.)
CORZINE skated with zero punishment-so will menendez. Holder will be disbarred after 2016-maybe even prison.
VT USES ISRAEL AS A SCAPEGOAT IN EVERY ARTICLE. THEY ARE THE DANGER TO LIBERTY, NOT ISRAEL.
HERE IS A SUPERBOWL WARNING VIDEO.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2rsPkaseitk&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D2rsPkaseitk
IF WE INVADE SYRIA, IT IS THE SAME MODEL AS IRAQ, BLAME THEM FOR THE UNPATRIOTIC PEOPLE MURDERING US IN COLD BLOOD BEHIND THEIR OPAQUE VELVET DRAPES DRAWN AT LANGLEY & 1600 PA AV 20500.
If something were to happen at the Super Bowl on Sunday, people would start selling off on Friday. The stock market would go down today...wait a minute, let me check,,,down 200+ points...oh no...
ReplyDeleteThe Super Bowl is so high security that you can't possibly blame it on one lone nut shooter. You can't even blame it on a group. There's been a highly published warning. They can't get away with a false flag at the Super Bowl, can they?
Then again, anthrax could only have come from the U.S. government and they got away with that. The recent LAX shooting showed a dummy during a drill and they got away with that. There was video of the Boston Marathon incident and they got away with that.
I know the false flags that happened in 2012 and 2013. I know things are being planned for 2014 and I wouldn't bet against anything at the Super Bowl. However, multiple soft targets are much easier to pull off. Obama is still going after guns and amnesty (thanks Republicans!) and retirement savings, so I think it's too early for a big event. But who knows?
At least we have armies of young sleuths with their smart phones ready to make real movies to counter the disturbed Obama and his cast of demented shills and army of Hollywood actors creating these fear events.
DeleteDHS IS PLANNING A HUGE DISASTER - long overdue since DC SHIPYARD.
DeleteTHEY WILL "fail" again, get their budget inflated, Increase our catastrophic debt, & deprive us of more liberties.
SECURITY at MetLife stadium in name only. If the CIA WANTS TO START A WAR with Syria, the superbowl is the best "justification".
Clapper lied again to congress this week- he said al Qaeda is a renegade group & "viable".
He had NO EYE CONTACT, FIDGETING AS HE LIED, SHUFFLING PAPERS.
ask an FBI AGENT THE BODY LANGUAGE OF A VERY BAD LIAR.
Patriarch, its Mr. and while you are correct that Israel's wars haven't been particularly successful, you are wrong to say Israel doesn't have influence in the U. S.
ReplyDeleteExample: Netanyahu gives a speech to a joint session of Congress and there are 29 standing ovations.
Apparently, you deny that AIPAC has been behind the push for a sanctions bill in the U. S. Senate.
Apparently, you don't think the fact that the U. S. Congress voted for 3.1 billion dollars to Israel this year is a measure of its supporters influence in Congress.
Patriarch, did you know Jewish people provide over half the political contributions to the Democratic Party and almost half for the Republican Party?
I could go on, but to claim Israel has little influence in the U.S. Congress is to simply be in denial.
What about the USS Liberty incident?
What about the Lavon Affair (1956), where Israel (much later) admitted to sending agents into Egypt to bomb places where Americans congregated and then blame on Egyptians? This is an admitted FACT.
Of course, you failed to address my comments regarding war with Iran.
Again, do you support war with Iran?
Standing o's do not mean the USA supports israel, merely congress.
DeleteJews are bi partisan. Standing o's are boilerplate. HYPE.
AIPAC had 2 executives charged with espionage, though the cases were dismissed, the taint remains.
You believe media hype.
If israel was so powerful, we would have infiltrated Iran already at their behest.
The state department TOLERATES THEM, SINCE '48.
Read about golda Meir & the Yom Kippur War.
As for the US LIBERTY, I can only believe that israel was in the midst of a massive border war, & IDF CHIEF OF STAFF RABIN became paranoid. It was the same anxiety, which ultimately set himself up for assassination.
I do not support ANY WAR. I WAS LIED TO WHEN I SIGNED UP FOR THE RESERVES IN MY SOPHOMORE YEAR AT BROWN.
6 weeks later, I was drafted.
The military preparation from one camp to another until I was shipped to IWO JIMA was run mostly by morons. We simply were ill prepared until I was trained to be a radio transmitter repairman.
I just completed my memoirs for my kids & I am convinced based upon present patterns of false flags that the USA entered the War knowing that an "incident " ( Pearl Harbor) was planned & known in advance.
The ONLY entre into war with Iran was to knock out Syria, which was Israel's desire & advice.
Obviously, Congress did not comply with Israel's plans.
As far as Lavon, I do not know more than I've read--that Israel needed continuous security assistance from withdrawing British troops, so they created an incident to galvanize support.
Have you ever heard any POTUS say he "read about it in the paper" after he created a terrorist attack?
Hmn. Nothing new under the sun.
I apologize sir. I was under the impression you were female.
Patriarch, I appreciate your response, thank you.
DeleteRadio talker Michael Savage said today that 92 nuclear officers have been purged, and he wonders why no one talks about it. (Savage told of a previous purge in October 2013.) Oh yes, Super Bowl, Justin Beiber--that's our news. From a tweet:
ReplyDeleteR A
@monkeydogman
Obama has purged 92 MORE officers from the USA's Nuclear Command. Why is he purging our military? (Per Michael Savage)
4:14 PM - 31 Jan 2014
This was originally posted on Menendez piece 1-30-14:
Deletehttp://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2014/01/30/more-implicated-nuclear-cheating-scandal/045dMN4cOaALrTJywDsW3H/story.htm
MetLife Stadium suspicious selection:
ReplyDelete"FYI about the venue for the 2014 Superbowl…
The NFL has a rule that the venue for the Superbowl must either have 50 degree weather in February or be an indoor stadium (domed). In the 47 year history of the Superbowl, only four years has the venue been in cold climes:
#16 Pontiac, MI “Silverdome”
#26 Minneapolis, MN, “Metrodome”
#40 Detroit, MI, “Ford Field” (domed)
#46 Indianapolis, IN, “Lucas Oil Stadium” (retractable roof)
The other 43 Superbowls were in places like Miami, New Orleans, etc. thus satisfying the 50degree rule.
However, the 2014 Superbowl is a first. It is the first time that the game will be played in a non-domed stadium in a cold climate city! The reason for the waiver from the NFL would be interesting to know.
Interestingly, the MetLife Stadium has a few more unique attributes:
+ The largest seating of all the NFL stadiums
+ The most expensive stadium of all the NFL stadiums
+ The only stadium to host two teams: NY Jets, NY Giants
+ The only stadium whose proposed corporate naming sponsor, Allianz, was fought by the Jewish Anti-Defamation League because the German company had strong ties to the Nazi’s in WWII. MetLife was eventually awarded naming rights but the controversy with the German financial giant Allianz remains intriguing.
I don’t know what this all means but it is safe to say that this Sunday’s SuperBowl is being played in the MOST unique venue of all the NFL venues and it is only because someone gave a special waiver for it to happen.
It is against the 48 year standing policy of the NFL to play in a place like this."
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/01/superbowl-open-air-false-flag-mass-transit-bottlenecks-and-bioterrorism-video-2888178.html
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x4_Gebu9P8w&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dx4_Gebu9P8
DeleteWill The False Flag Event At The Superbowl Get The Green Light ?